Graduate sent me his CV - and then got very miffed!

Oh dear! Not sure who coined the phrase, but  'Youth . . . . is wasted on the young' lol

Wonder if he used something like"Muvee Producer" to put it together with ?

 

This allows you to chuck loads of clips into a bucket & then produces a showreel!

 

I might be an old fart at 68 but certainley enjoy most forms of musac, but having watched this & a showreel?

I think he must have graduatitis - where you've been told you are really good and the world is your oyster, based on being the only one to actually hand in completed work. He's asking for work experience, yet incapable of understanding that most people he emailed won't be bothered to view it, and those that do won't be bothered to respond, leaving very few who might consider hiring him. I never see the point of putting your work up for scrutiny, but being upset by comments?

Cooo.. James May on trumpet @ 0.17!!

 

I do agree with you, Paul.  My son will complete a similar course in a year's time.  Might use this as an example of how not to do it.

What a shame, he must have thrown out loads of decent footage 'cause there's quite a few clips in there that seem to show there was once something worth watching.

My son did his foundation course in animation at a local college 8 years ago and the show reels from the media students were the same then as this one is now - as Barry says, throw it in a bucket, mix in random effects and voilà!

He went on to an animation degree course in Wales where the tutors were industry trained and they worked to industry standards, the difference was just incomparable.

 

robo

 

Wonder if he`s following this thread If not, Paulears should send him the link, he might JUST get a reality check & then with some proper training learn his craft & produce something of value. My feeling is though, given the reply he gave, that he`s convinced he`s the next God given producer!

If he is anything like the students that i have had to endure working alongside recently then it's not training that he lacks! Media courses these days are full of training. People are trained to be "directors", people sit in front of an MX70 / tricaster and get trained how to"vision mix". 

 

There is nothing wrong with training! What's wrong is that thinking this training turns you into a Director, or a Vision Mixer or anything beyond a student.  Very few of the students / ex-students i see can coil a cable, (mind you their lecturers are not much better at this) so they haven't even got the most basic skills needed to help out on shoots, yet they have training and a piece of paper to prove it!  This often comes with an attitude that they are "experienced" as they have "worked" on lots of productions (at school) and fully understand the work of  Director as they directed 3 projects last year. 

 

Most of the good professionals I know either did a "proper subject" at uni or never went at all. 

 

I would not advise anyone to do a media course until they have some experience. It's easier to get real world experience if you are NOT a media student / graduate as it helps you to stand out from the crowd. I'd always be happy to have someone along to help on jobs if they are keen to learn and ask (not too many) of the right questions. But people who give you a DVD of their homework from school and expect you to treat them like an experienced professional are far too common these days. 

Paul - I sympathise with how you feel.  I too gently offer a helping hand where I think it appropriate, explaining that the CV's covering letter should be read by a fresh pair of eyes that preferably have an English O level background rather than a txt spk upbringng.  Having English as his second language is something Marcio must live with.  But it's tough out there - he must be (gently - obviously) be made aware that first impressions are crucial to success.  And success in this case is simply getting your foot in the door, nothing more.

 

tom.

I had a local phone number call me and offer to cover any work I had if I got stuck - as I do occasionally need people at short notice for on the doorstep work, I was going to sort of pigeonhole him and take his number - so I asked what his experience was. He could cover everything we do. I thought this a little odd as there are only really two of us plus one regular freelancer, and we do a huge range of things - basically anything we're asked for - lights, sound, video, production, music etc. Something seemed a bit odd so I asked him what kind of cameras he was used to. He fudged a bit then came up with a DSLR, that although we don't use, I'm aware of. I said that as we do mainly theatrical video, having a camera that can run for an hour is pretty important - how did he get over the time limit? Expecting the usual hacks and fudges answer - I was surprised when he said he had no idea what I meant? I tried a sound question about phantom power, again, no clue. Lighting next - never heard of DMX. His experience turned out to be two weeks work experience and he was 16. He really couldn't see that he was of no use to me at all, and pushed for me to give him some work. Question after question revealed no skill base whatsoever - so in the end I told him to go to college for two years, then do three at uni and call me back. Talk about thick skin!

I get the impression this Media merry go round is easy money for those who either don't know or have done a bit of video work and think no skill needed.But i have noticed the younger generation going to college studying media think work is plentiful once graduated.