But he is more or less going to get the same input
............................................................................................I don't use a Mac, so I don't subscribe to the forum you mentioned. However, I did enjoy the clip and had it not been posted on this forum, the DVforums audience would'nt have had the opportunity to see it.
After your initial comment I did some digging, yes it's been posted elsewhere but what these 2 guys are doing is now called 'Viral Marketing', the modern way of getting your film out, watched and commented on - welcome to the 21st century.
please give feedback as it helps me to improve in the future
When the op asked for feedback on his film, I think he was seeking opinions on whether he might have done things differently to make a better presentation to his prospective audience. I don't see any problems if he used creative skills and hardware/software to produce his film - the important thing is his story and people's reactions. The processes may have changed, in the same way that the options available to view films has changed, but surely just because prospective film makers do things differently, it does'nt necessarilly make them wrong.
........why would i go to other forums for more of the same?.....
Sorry Dave he got 15 replies to the video not 4 as you stated and i did comment 2 times under a different name.
Still appreciating feedback :)
Without commenting greatly on the 'Great Forum Debate' I can only say that I hadn't seen it previously - I'm glad I did here though and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Great work.
This is a short film which I have created for a school course, please give feedback as it helps me to improve in the future.
Harry - welcome to the forum, and if I've got anything to say about posting to more than one forum for feedback, I'm only surprised you didn't post to a video-centric one first!
I'll confess that normally when I read comments along the lines of "please give feedback about my short film" I very rarely comment - only when I think "not bad", but maybe a few elements worth individual comment.
Your film was completely different. It showed a maturity of technique which is hard to credit as part of a school course. I wondered for a while if "Harry Cross" was actually a teacher, and had made the film as a teaching aid? (I'm assuming not!?)
That said, I'm assuming you want more than simple blind praise, and I hope you'll find the following helpful.
Firstly - good photographic composition all round. And good to see so much of it with solid framings and the action moving within the frame. On several occasions you start with a frame which the action moves into - it works well.
Second - good editing, also shows an appreciation of knowing how it was going to be edited at the time of shooting. Likewise, good use of music.
Thirdly - very nice use of effects. Effective whilst simple - and I'm thinking especially of the "changing seasons" sequence. (I don't want to give too much away!) The effects are effective whilst restraining any temptation to go over the top.
OK, now to be a bit more critical. (Sorry!) If I'd seen it advertised as a show on normal TV, what might I not have liked? It seems a little churlish, but I'm afraid the ending was a bit obvious - easy to see what was coming. It's easier to say than do, but as an example I'd point to the Swedish "Arne Dahl" series as an example of how it's possible sometimes to misdirect the audience to think they know what will happen - then put a sting in the tail. (As example, there's a scene at the beginning of one episode where the action splits between a man giving his daughter first lessons on her bike in a country road, and in car scenes of a family travelling along. It's obvious what's coming..... or is it.....?)
I also found myself a little confused as to what was happening at what time. Exactly what the younger boy had done to seemingly be getting criticism?
But I stress this is looking at it not as a school project but rather as general television - comparing it to what gets routinely broadcast. And given the script, the way it was realised was very, very good.
On the more technical side, my main feeling was that the very heavy "look" was overdone, at least to have it all the way through. Personally, I'd have preferred much more of the film to have had a more natural grade, possibly reverting to the look you gave it for specific scenes - to deliberately act as a pointer to what is "normal" - and what isn't?
But very, very good indeed.
Regarding the basic premise of the film, then if you're not already aware of it, you may be interested in an American film which has got a certain cult following - "Safety Not Guaranteed". ( http://www.safetynotguaranteedmovie.com/index.html for a trailer.) Available on Amazon from the States, though only as Region 1 AFAIK.
Best of luck for the future!
Interestingly I just watched the trailer for this movie last night attached to locally purchased DVD (actually containing Headhunters and Jackpot - Jo Nesbo stories. Jackpot reminded me that Norwegian humor is different to mine even in a black comedy)
Anyway Safety Not Guaranteed is available here on special.
https://shop.jbhifi.co.nz/dvd/dvd-genres/comedy/safety-not-guaranteed/71758
At NZ $9.98 (= approx UK 5 pounds) even with postage cost should be affordable.
Gordon
I heard the premise of "Safety Not Guaranteed" and was intrigued - enough to order the DVD. It's a pretty low budget film (though huge by the standards of a school project, I'm sure!!
) but I can only say it has a certain something to it. others may think different.
Without giving anything away, it all hangs on the question of whether the "timetraveller" is simply a nutcase, or ...... ?
The title is based on a real advert that was placed, and one of the extras on the disc features the person who did that. A nice little touch is that he gets a cameo in the film - checking the mailbox.
It's also important to realise that it's a comedy for the most part - but generally done in quite a subtle way. Perhaps what appealed most to me about it was the characters - I found myself actually interested in them....
Really good work Harry that's comparable to professional productions.
My main criticisms would be that the grade is too heavy and you've missed the opportunity to give different grades to the different time periods.
It looks looks quite overexposed, in the future you may wish to play with camera settings to record a very "flat" image which will give you more dynamic range to play with when grading. I don't know what programs you use currently, but experimenting with using mattes to apply different grades to different parts of the image would be interesting for you and allow you to create better stylised looks. These things are hard to do on borrowed / school equipment though, it's much easier to learn if you have a camera you can really take the time to learn inside out.
I'd suggest that you get the film about as much as you can, enter it in competitions, link to it from as many places on the web as you can. You clearly have some considerable talent and I'd be surprised if you don't find opportunities for the future from this film.
good luck!

