June 26, 2012 - 15:14
I am buidling a pc to edit HD and use lots of effects plugins in premiere and AE,
i want rendering times to be super fast ,
i am going to buy a cheap 3.6 quad core AMD , puts lots of RAM in ,
but can anyone suggest a good budget graphics card thats really going to make a difference
cheers !
thanks for looking
July 5, 2012 - 20:52
#1
Re: PC quad core & grpahics card spec suggestions
Nothing budget is going to be supported, as very few consumer-level video cards will actually work out of the box. The Mercury Engine CS6 compatibility list is below.
The cheaper third of this list probably won't net you much real-world improvement in your workflow. If you're talking about buying 'a cheap AMD', it is almost certain any type of Adobe-supported hardware acceleration is well out of your price range.
You may want to consider buying a higher end CPU. This will significantly decrease your render times as well as speed up anything that isn't hardware accelerated (which in software mode is everything). The majority of my non-productive time in Premiere/AE is waiting for my stuff to render or pre-render.
Working in 1080p+ full res preview with real time effects rendering is overrated anyway. A lot of pros are putting amazing commercial things together in software mode at 25% on a laptop on battery in a hotel lobby.
Supported AMD graphics cards for GPU acceleration
• AMD Radeon HD 6750M (only on certain MacBook Pro computers running OS X Lion (10.7.x) with a minimum of 1GB VRAM)
• AMD Radeon HD 6770M (only on certain MacBook Pro computers running OS X Lion (10.7.x) with a minimum of 1GB VRAM)
Supported NVIDIA graphics cards for GPU acceleration
• AMD Radeon HD 6770M (only on certain MacBook Pro computers running OS X Lion (10.7.x) with a minimum of 1GB VRAM)
Supported NVIDIA graphics cards for GPU acceleration
GeForce GTX 285 (Windows and Mac OS)
GeForce GTX 470 (Windows)
GeForce GTX 570 (Windows)
GeForce GTX 580 (Windows)
NVIDIA® Tesla C2075 card (Windows) when paired with a Quadro card as part of an NVIDIA Maximus™ configuration
Quadro FX 3700M (Windows)
Quadro FX 3800 (Windows)
Quadro FX 3800M (Windows)
Quadro FX 4800 (Windows and Mac OS)
Quadro FX 5800 (Windows)
Quadro 2000 (Windows)
Quadro 2000D (Windows)
Quadro 2000M (Windows)
Quadro 3000M (Windows)
Quadro 4000 (Windows and Mac OS)
Quadro 4000M (Windows)
Quadro 5000 (Windows)
Quadro 5000M (Windows)
Quadro 5010M (Windows)
Quadro 6000 (Windows)
Quadro CX (Windows)
Tesla C2075** (Windows)
GeForce GTX 470 (Windows)
GeForce GTX 570 (Windows)
GeForce GTX 580 (Windows)
NVIDIA® Tesla C2075 card (Windows) when paired with a Quadro card as part of an NVIDIA Maximus™ configuration
Quadro FX 3700M (Windows)
Quadro FX 3800 (Windows)
Quadro FX 3800M (Windows)
Quadro FX 4800 (Windows and Mac OS)
Quadro FX 5800 (Windows)
Quadro 2000 (Windows)
Quadro 2000D (Windows)
Quadro 2000M (Windows)
Quadro 3000M (Windows)
Quadro 4000 (Windows and Mac OS)
Quadro 4000M (Windows)
Quadro 5000 (Windows)
Quadro 5000M (Windows)
Quadro 5010M (Windows)
Quadro 6000 (Windows)
Quadro CX (Windows)
Tesla C2075** (Windows)
July 19, 2012 - 16:10
#2
Re: PC quad core & grpahics card spec suggestions
Thanks alot for the info commissionersnaps ,
I am looking through the list now, I am also looking into what is a good AMD equivilant of i7 , AMD Bulldozer FX-8150 8 Core 3.60GHz
this with a quadro FX 4800 , would be a great £600 setup right ?
I would like real time effects editing - i appreciate that maybe this could be unnessary for a lot of the time but I am using fx alot in an experimental way , so real time feedback is extremely useful for this ...
all the best
Will
July 19, 2012 - 18:24
#3
Re: PC quad core & grpahics card spec suggestions
AE might take advantage of the Quadro FX card but Premiere flies along happily with a much cheaper GTX560 (or similar).
If it was my money I'd miss out the FX, get a GeForce and spend difference on an i7 CPU & RAM.
July 19, 2012 - 22:40
#4
Re: PC quad core & grpahics card spec suggestions
Thanks, would a raid 0 setup make much difference...
July 19, 2012 - 23:20
#5
Re: PC quad core & grpahics card spec suggestions
Also would there really be a big difference in performance between an AMD 8 core 3.6ghz with 32Gb ram and a i7 intel?
Would i be able to realtime Hd with that suggested setup Gavin?
Looking now the quadro cards look like they are made for high end graphics design and animation, maybe over the top for a someone who want to play around with gen arts and a few multi layers, gtx card looks a promising card...
July 20, 2012 - 09:51
#6
Re: PC quad core & grpahics card spec suggestions
Last time I looked Adobe didn't optimise for AMD and that's why Intel was/is a better bet.
We don't need RAID for a few streams of HDV and AVCHD - even a laptop with a single drive can manage that.
If you are editing high data rate content then RAID will help. However, onboard RAID carries an overhead that negates some of the speed benefit. You also increase the risk of data loss. Two drive RAID O = twice the risk of failure and probably around a 40% speed benefit (wild guess not checked for ages).
Fast RAID systems are expensive so you really need to "need" one to make it worthwhile.
My solution for getting more work done is to run more than one edit system - we still do a lot of DVCAM importing/exporting so no amount of CPU grunt can speed that up ;)