May 20, 2013 - 11:10
Like I expect a lot of other members, I get jobs in copying various tape formats to DVD! The one I'm currently on starts of great where the father is talking to his newborn baby saying that he & his wife were going to record the first few weeks. It then goes to just prior to her birth where mum is talking to camera etc about the impending birth. The actual birth isn`t shown but what is, is an in depth discussion about the afterbirth with the midwife handling it & talking about all the various attributes etc! Ugh, I know it is a neccesary part of the birth procedure, but to discuss in such detail, I hope it`s not shown to the daughter (she`s currently about 13) until she`s old enough to be able to deal with it. I suppose I should be grateful the birth wasn`t shown although I was there for our 2 daughters. My wife saw the clip on screen & even she thought it repunant, having not even seen hers when she gave birth. They could have shown the conception however
May 20, 2013 - 11:15
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Barry Hunter wrote:
They could have shown the conception however
At least you correctly write 'have' instead of 'of' Barry . . . !
May 20, 2013 - 11:35
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Ron Spicer wrote:
Barry Hunter wrote:
At least you correctly write 'have' instead of 'of' Barry . . . !
Is Barry now GONNA change it
Harry
May 20, 2013 - 11:51
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H and M Video wrote:
Ron Spicer wrote:
Barry Hunter wrote:
At least you correctly write 'have' instead of 'of' Barry . . . !Is Barry now GONNA change itHarry
Wouldn't NO Harry, but he doesn't have to
May 20, 2013 - 11:57
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My old English teacher "might" be pleased that I listened just a little!
May 20, 2013 - 17:22
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I`m not so sure about young people not seeing the placenta. It is after all the life giver in the womb , and although it looks horrendous , maybe that girl will be fascinated enough to enquire more and perhaps even be motivated to go into midwifery or a medical profession. As a for instance , My eldest is Type 1 Diebetes , he has to have insulin. The stepdaughter at that time aged 12 wrote an essay on diabetes. she went onto become Camb educated and is now a doctor. I think it may well be a good idea not to impose our values too much on the young - Just make it age appropiate and by her choice advising what the content is. A steaming pulsating almost alive matter , but what a job it does. Time for my embalming & mumification lesson.
May 20, 2013 - 18:54
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I'd rather like to be a cameraman on those German Gunther von Hagens dissection programmes. I find them fascinating. On the childbirth front, I've noticed over the years that the placenta delivery is usually missing from videos of childbirth. I was amazed seeing one for the first time. I just remember thinking it looked very much like the pizza I had the evening before. What got me was not the look, but the size. I never knew they were that huge! Some people love medical programmes, others cringe. Just look at embarrassing bodies - it's very popular but a bit gross sometimes. Perhaps people should be exposed to this kind of thing even more often?
May 20, 2013 - 21:13
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I spoke to the father today to tell him that the DVD`s were ready & thinking that as the original tape was from 2000 that he might have forgotten some of it`s content & that he might want to think whether he showed it to daughter! "No problem, she`s already seen it some time back"
I`m not squeamish about blood & gore etc, I filmed an operation a few years back in Torbay hospital for a consultant who wanted some powerpoint footage to show corrective surgery on a foot, this was showing the re-alignment of a foot & required the breaking of bones & fixing them with Titanium screws at £85 a pop! Also, I`m ex military so I don`t do "Squeemish"
May 21, 2013 - 08:10
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Barry Hunter wrote:
& fixing them with Titanium screws at £85 a pop! Also, I`m ex military so I don`t do "Squeemish"
I'm ex defence industry so I don't have a problem with titanium screws at £85 a pop either! 
May 21, 2013 - 08:44
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Barry Hunter wrote:
I`m not squeamish about blood & gore etc, I filmed an operation a few years back in Torbay hospital for a consultant who wanted some powerpoint footage to show corrective surgery on a foot, this was showing the re-alignment of a foot & required the breaking of bones & fixing them with Titanium screws at £85 a pop! Also, I`m ex military so I don`t do "Squeemish"
You do do misogynistic though.
At 13 years old his daughter is very near to or possibly already experiencing changes in her own body which prepare it for the process of reproduction. No doubt you also find menstruation "repunant" (sic). These are natural processes which are an essential part of being human, all of humanity would be better served by understanding rather than fearing such processes. Better understanding starts with education, and saying to a child "here is a video about YOUR birth" is a great way to introduce them to the mechanics of the human body. You might of never seen such detail before, which is actually more of a problem than showing it to a young child. After all if you had been educated about the mechanics of reproduction as a child then your response would not be repulsion.
What are you trying to protect the girl from? Reality? Knowledge of her own body and how it came to exist?
Personally I think these parents have done an excellent thing, and their daughter will be better adjusted and able to cope with life through the eduction provided by her parents.
May 21, 2013 - 08:55
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Fair point! I hadn`t thought of it in that way.
May 21, 2013 - 11:52
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I spent 10 years teaching mainly girls from 16-20, and their parents would be horrified if they knew the subjects their kids talked about. Kids of this age know far more about things than their parents are aware.
In this topic, the real question is about our morals and beliefs and if these should impact on what material we work on. I personally would have copied the material and made no comment whatsoever. The commissioner would know the content and be comfortable with a stranger viewing it, otherwise they would not have provided it. Some of the material I have seen is best forgotten about, and any comment I made would have been very awkward. Aas long as we behave professionally, that's enough!
May 21, 2013 - 14:44
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paulears wrote:
I spent 10 years teaching mainly girls from 16-20, and their parents would be horrified if they knew the subjects their kids talked about. Kids of this age know far more about things than their parents are aware.In this topic, the real question is about our morals and beliefs and if these should impact on what material we work on. I personally would have copied the material and made no comment whatsoever. The commissioner would know the content and be comfortable with a stranger viewing it, otherwise they would not have provided it. Some of the material I have seen is best forgotten about, and any comment I made would have been very awkward. Aas long as we behave professionally, that's enough!
Thoroughly agree; that's why, in another post nearby, I referred rather disparagingly to parents not wanting their little darlings to be exposed to such stuff. I"m old - really old - but I can still remember the things I knew from about 8 years of age onward which my parents didn't know I knew. Kids know about "it" and the trouble with this civilised world of ours is that "we" dress in clothing, hiding our personal selves and completely lose sight of what we all really are!
May 21, 2013 - 12:50
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It's quite funny too. In my production manager guise, at Christmas one of my dancers called me to the dressing room and there was one of my girls very distressed because she wasn't well. Street wise veneer falls away and I end up like their mum. She had gastro trouble, and I got the full details. I sent her to the hospital because she was in real pain too. That evening I went to see how she was and she sat there in the dressing room in tears (in her underwear, of course). I've become rather good at ignoring this kind of thing and asked what the problem was? She showed me what they'd dispensed to her, and held it in her fingers, sobbing. I'll never be able to swallow that, it's too big. I then had to explain that er, it didn't need to be swallowed, it was for the 'other end'. Very blank expression. So I had to explain exactly what she had to do with it! This is the same girl who complained she couldn't see properly in the wig I'd given her as it spoiled her profiterole vision!
May 21, 2013 - 16:04
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I had to do a camcorder tape once to dvd and was asked to dodge out the boys willy ! It was on the topic of MMR & Autism. I did wonder at the child protection aspect. Perhaps we as society have become a bit too "safety " worried. I have always thought the more you try to make something safe , the more dangerous it becomes.