Adobe Premiere Pro2 Problem

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Roy
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I am working with HDV widescreen videos using Adobe premiere Pro 2 and am getting on fine. The resultant edited HDV when put back on DV Tape is brilliant. My problem now is getting the the HDV video onto YouTube. I have several standalone Video converters but of course none of them accept Adobe project files. If I convert the files to AVI then into meg 4 H264 the resultant file though good, doesn't look as if its HD and it has borders top and bottom. On Premiere Pro 2 itself when I use the export to the web programme there doesn't seem to be the H264 choice, not even an Mpeg 4 choice of 25fps, only 29. something. If anyone can give me directions how to proceed from the timeline I will be grateful. Thanks Roy

Michael Wade
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I have the same problem as Roy and I would also appreciate some guidance on this. As it is I convert the timeline project to .wmv which seems to give a reasonable result.

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Roy wrote:
I am working with HDV widescreen videos using Adobe premiere Pro 2 and am getting on fine. The resultant edited HDV when put back on DV Tape is brilliant. My problem now is getting the the HDV video onto YouTube. I have several standalone Video converters but of course none of them accept Adobe project files. If I convert the files to AVI then into meg 4 H264 the resultant file though good, doesn't look as if its HD and it has borders top and bottom. On Premiere Pro 2 itself when I use the export to the web programme there doesn't seem to be the H264 choice, not even an Mpeg 4 choice of 25fps, only 29. something. If anyone can give me directions how to proceed from the timeline I will be grateful. Thanks Roy

I would suggest something like procoder as an external app that takes the hdv file from the timeline and converts to the codec and dimensions you require.

The 29 something is for ''ntsc'' footage.

Michael Wade wrote:
I have the same problem as Roy and I would also appreciate some guidance on this. As it is I convert the timeline project to .wmv which seems to give a reasonable result.

That is because the wmv presets work.
You need to find a way to get the h264 to work.

There are many freeware products out there that can take HD off air transmissions and convert to h264 , maybe one of those will do the job.

Theres a thread on creative cow about one persons attempts @ http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/3/884529

And another on another forum @ http://muvipix.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4489&start=0&hilit=vimeo+bobby

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treborsnave
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Roy,can I ask, how are you exporting to get the avi in the first place? If you're using file-export-movie PPro2 will only allow you to produce an SD copy of your HDV project - in which case that would explain the loss in resolution and the borders around your video.
I usually do file-export-adobe media encoder then select windows media format
with a preset of WMV9 1080 25p then play around with the bitrate to get a decent result. Give it a try at the defaults to see what happens. Don't forget to hit the "deinterlace" button at the top left of the export dialog box.
Here's a vid that has been dropped slightly to 720p using the same process and uploaded to youtube... http://www.youtube.com/treborsnave76#p/u/7/O6OFlcKdba4

hope that helps!

Roy
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Treborsnave. I made an AVI file exactly as you mentioned and then used a stand alone Main Concept Mpeg 4 encoder to make an H264/ACC file. You have confirmed my thoughts that the reult is an SD file. As I said, it's pretty good when filling the screen of a 22inch monitor. However I have also made an Mpeg 2 (I believe) using the method you mention. It is very good indeed but as I cannot fill the screen with it I can't really judge it. I am hoping to upload it to YouTube shortly so I'll get a better idea then. I think I will settle for this method as apart from spending money on other programmes such as pro coder which is very costly, there is no choice. I looked at your video on YouTube and considering it was taken in lowlight conditions( I think), it was impressive. I will get a better idea when I see mine which was shot in sunlight in Spain.

Dave R Smith
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Hi Roy,
As you are uncertain if resultant file is SD/HDV:
Import avi file to premiere, right click/properties to check resolution, pixel aspect ratio and frame rate.
Do same for h264 file.
avi file can be HD as extension indicates the compression type not resolution.
Your current export process may now be changed, but atleast you will know what you had for comparison.
HTH

Roy
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Hi all. I have now placed on Youtube a short video in High Definition. I made it by using Adobe pemierre 2 encoder straight from the timeline. It took an hour to render the just under 3 min video. I notice that Youtube offer four choices of viewing it. I have trouble with playing in in the 1080 mode, it stops and starts but I think the image is very good. It plays back okay when I choose the 720 mode. Is this the power of the PC or the speed of the Broadband? anyone know? However I would like you to look at the video and give me your verdict. Good or bad on the image quality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx3JxthKRpA!

treborsnave
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Hi Roy, just watched on a 23 inch 1080 monitor and it looks great. NIce and bright!
The reason for it stopping and starting is the rate at which it downloads in the background. You can see this if you go to a video on youtube then press pause - you will see a lighter red line under the timeline that gradually builds until it is 100%. If you have problems with slow connection/peak times, I usually pause it until 25% has been downloaded - most of the time this is enough to allow you to press playand watch the clip in it's entirety.

Roy
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Hi. Treborsnave. Thanks for reminding me about pausing the youtube video until it's ready to show. I was told about this years ago, but as I never had to use it, I'd forgotton all about it. The 1080 mode plays perfectly when I use the pause idea. Thanks again. Roy

treborsnave
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Roy, looked good to me :-)
The stalling is just a result of your connection not being quite fast enough to cache the video data to play in realtime. You can just hit pause and wait for the ligther red line to get about 25% then hit play - should allow enough buffer to carry you through in most cases.