Beggining with 6?

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rhino
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Anyone help a beginner?Ive just filmed a band with 2 cams and am trying to edit the two in prem 6.All i want to do is Sync the two up and cut from one to the other and then export back to dv cam.Ive been trying to get my head round the manual but it seems to be written in that easy to understand english that nobody actually understands

Barry Hunter
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Premier isn`t the easist of interfaces to work with to do what you want, neither is Purple!

However, sync up the 2 tracks by using either a known sound point or if you used a clapper, use that. Decice which sound you are going to use, (if applicable)& protect this audio track.

Assuming you have one predominant camera, have this on the top most video track. Play the time line to see where you want the cuts or inserts. to be able to see the track beneath disable the top track. When you have found a point for the underneath track, razor out the part of the top track to enable you to see the bottom one.

I find it hard to beleive that these newer type of editing interfaces do not support cuts as such, Purple/Edition included. i have kept my "Video Machine" because of this. on that you only have 2 tracks but it is so easy to just put the transition from one to the other.

Hope this helps.

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buckers
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I did a similar thing recently with Dance Group material (several sources) using MSP6. I used one as a 'master' as it had the best audio and then cut sections out of the other(s). Syncing was easy as they all had the same audio (although some outdoor footage was VHS-C and drifted slightly - you won't have this problem).

There is an online tutorial somewhere for doing this in MSP6 (may help you if it's generic enough) unfortunately I discovered it afterwards )

Adam

RayL
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If you are doing synced multitrack editing in Premiere you two most useful tools are Enable/Disable and Razor At Edit Line. Use the Command feature to set them up as Function keys (I use F8 and F9) and you can do timesaving two-handed editing with the mouse to scrub and these two keys to reveal and cut.

Ray Liffen

cliff.mcloughlin
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Rhino

I do this regularly for wedding services. I don't have the chance to use a clapper but my method is as follows:

1 shoot the whole service on 2 cameras with no breaks - even if the camera has to be moved.
2 Use ScenalyzerLive (scenalyzer.com) to capture the whole service from both tapes.
3 Import to Premier and put the first clip (2GB file) from each camera on the main 2 video/audio tracks.
4 Expand the audio tracks to show the waveform and find the point where a specific sound starts (in my case usually the organ starting for the wedding march). Place a timeline marker on each track and grab the LEFT hand side of one of the clips (Call it track 1) and drag it to the timeline marker
5 Put the cursor on the timeline marker on the other track (Track 2) and then drag track 1 till the left hand start point is lined up with the cursor. This should have synchronised the two tracks. Fine tuning can be done 'by ear' by using ALT , (comma) to move the clip left or ALT .(stop) to move it right a frame at a time. This fine tune is easiest on speach where the aim is to minimise the 'echo' from the 2 audio tracks.
6 Drag the left hand end of track 1 back to its starting point taking care not to move the clip on the time line.
7 Add the remaining clips from each camera a the end of the first one - these will be automatically sync'ed.
8 If you want to use both sound tracks together, unlink the audio and video tracks for the upper track and then work through the project cutting out the unwanted portions of the video of the upper track and leaving the complete lower track

Hope this is clear

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rhino
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Thank you all for the tips and advice!If your interested ill explain the full picture of what im trying to achieve,Im a voluntary worker for a local charitable organisation teaching young people music related subjects and also promote young bands/musicians.We have a venue for local and national bands to come and play,there is an in house pa system which is aprox 7000 watts with a 24 track mixing desk.The idea is to film using one static and one roving camera.As regards recording audio we have a fostex 16 track digital hard disk recorder.All the instruments on stage are amplified each having a seperate audio channel on the in house mixing desk.The mixing desk has direct audio outputs for each channel,so the audio recorder is linked to each used channel(up to 16)recorded to disk and mixed down in our studio.The 2 film layers editted together and the audio added at the end.The audio side is not a problem,we are simply struggling to find the easiest way to put all this together and keep the editting as simple as possible.The most requested format for final copies are vhs so they can be watcyed at home and cd-rom for use on the net so the young bands can promote themselves and use also as coursework for those at college.Bearing all this in mind we are looking into purchasing a card that can be output to svhs and weve been offered an RT2000 quite cheap(ours is dv only).
Choosing the correct software to build our project is essential and im concerned about putting too much time into the premiere software we have without first asking you all for advice,remembering that for most of our projects,all that is needed are straight cuts between the two.It may be of interest that ive just received studio 7se bundled with my new pc,would this make life easier?
Please pass on any more thoughts and ideas they are much appreciated.p.s if i seem to wander off track a bit its because it takes me an age to type and i forget what im on about by the end of a sentence,what an ass!!!
David