I have just upgrated from Premiere 6.5 to premiere Pro 1.5 on my system ( P4 2.8 Gz, 512 RAM, Canopus DV Storm 2) i used PP 1.5 on another system with similar characteristics but without capture card and everything worked fine, but on this one PP seems to work slower- when i press the space button to playback source video or timeline it reacts slightly later. What especially anoying is that it stops later by 2 frames than it should so it makes precise editing very complicated. :mad: Has anyone encountered similar problems? maybe those 2 extra frames are just some kind of setting?
Premiere pro and storm2 do not get on very well together
Edius and storm do
Premiere 6.5 gets on pretty well too.
I'm amazed that anyone sold you premiere pro to add to a storm system without warning you of the problems , we certainly told enough people here and on canopus' own forums.
Unfortunately people who run the company i work in now, trusted some dealer :cool: who sold and installed all the equipment and software when they upgraded from linear editing. So when i started working here I found 3 vesions :confused: of Premiere: 6.5, Pro 1.0 , 1.5. I wanted to upgrade to 1.5 earlier, but couldn't until they upgraded OS Win 2000 to XP. Are there any ways to solve such problem? maybe it is possible to Swich canopus off at the editing stage and use it only for rendering or capturing?
...maybe those 2 extra frames are just some kind of setting?
Hi
No. Those frames are probably a 'latency' effect caused by the split of processing needed to be done by the CPU and the Storm card to give full quality real-time rendering of your timeline. The same sort of latency can be observed in some other configurations in systems where high levels of real-time processing are being done.
Its down to software driver optimisation, and AFAIK only companies like Matrox and Blackmagic are writing useable hardware drivers to work with PPro.
I never installed premiere higher than 6.5 on my pc after the trial version was useless.
You may well be able to edit with standard presets , save timeline , then load the timeline into premiere 6.5 to output to vhs or use the mpeg2 encoder.
I've tried to change the settings so the DV storm wouldn't be working. Everything works fine but i cannot see anything on aditional TV monitor. I haven't really checked yet how the monitor is connected but if i swiched it into S-video out? maybe that would help?
if you connect the monitor to the storm card , and you disable the storm card , you won't get an output .
Premiere 6.5 was the best and most advanced version of a well-respected line of software that had many years of development and improvement. The DV Storm was made with this software in mind and they work very well together.
Premiere Pro is not an upgrade of 6.5. Instead, Adobe 'started again' and made a product that was superficially similar to 6.5 but (since there was no collaboration between Adobe and Canopus) had many features that would not work, or would not work properly, with the DV Storm.
You have to ask yourself - do you want to use Premiere Pro or do you want the DV Storm with all it's real time effects and transitions, it's fast MPEG encoding, it's dual audio and video inputs and outputs and it's suite of useful, efficient software? If it's the Storm, then go back to 6.5.
Ray Liffen
the problem is that i am not very familiar with P 6.5 as i started learning from PP 1.0. The book i started learning video editing from( 'Premiere Pro in 24 hours ' by Jeff Sengstack) doesn't say anything about compatibility problems of DV Storm2 and Premiere Pro. I'm still gonna try something but it seems that i'll have to sacrafice something...
If the system is registerred , you can download the most up to date set of drivers for adobe premiere pro from canopus , but i wouldn't use premiere pro and storm2.
If you are only just learning editing , it would be better to make a decision , stick with it , and live with the consequences.
yes there were issues wit the storm and Premiere pro but mine works a treat and that on a VIA chipset. and premiere pro is far better than Premiere 6.5 infact premiere pro 2 is the best of the lot (premiere pro 2 is used with a RTX2 not the storm)
To use prem pro with the storm (on my system at least) you need a hell of a lot more that 512mb of ram i'm using 1.5GB and i tried it once on 1GB and that was a noticable difference,
These are the Premiere/canopus/windows settings that i use and although i make no guarentees
they work for me
1) set the buffer to only 1 second that seem to make a whole lot more stable
2)Turn overlay quality down to Low (i never use the pc screen while editing always the external monitor)
3) premiere seems to hate network being connected while editing (Both versions for me 1.5 and 2.0) turn it off
4) regular stuff like disable anti virus/syware programmes
5) Page file on a seperate drive set min and max to 1.5X memory availabe so 512 would equal pagefile size of 768
6) I have Most USB ports disabled while editing
7) Mine doesn't seem to like OHCI 1394 enabled while using the storm
Check processes that are runnning while editing mine runs on about 22
most Pc's i ve seem with problems are up at around 45
In other words if its not being used while editing turn it off.
I have actually created a seperate hardware profile for editing wit the storm
MM
Thankyou MM , as i said , i have no access to a PPro system , and you have hopefully proved it can be done.
Thanks i'll try the settings as soon as i get back to the studio. I'll let you know if it worked.
Thank's MM. The settings you told me to try realy made some noticible difference,i also set windows for better performance and diabled all the visual effects but i couln't find how to change the buffer size...
thank's a lot
Tom
The buffer size for a Storm is changed using 'Settings' in that great little editing package, Storm Edit.
Ray L
i also set windows for better performance and diabled all the visual effectsTom
oops i forgot to mention those :D